About us
On a trip to San Francisco
Both 54 years old and we have a relationship since 1993.
Map of the Netherlands
showing the town where we live in red.
We live about 90 kms (55 miles) South of Amsterdam.
Our wedding
We married in 2001. We were among the first in our city. We both wore black leather pants with a white stripe on our wedding day and even our best man wore leather pants: his idea!
Some of our wedding pictures in leather.
Media adventure
By coincidence our wedding plans became world news after we were present when the "law on the opening of marriage for people of the same sex" was passed in Dutch parliament in 2000.
top left ABC-News website, right a Chinese News website
bottom left a Spanish newspaper, right BBC television
Where we go out
We don't go out as much as we used to. But over the years we did manage to visit leatherbars in Antwerp (Belgium), Paris (France), Berlin, Hamburg, Düsseldorf (Germany), London (UK), Phoenix (AZ), San Francisco (CA) and even Milan (Italy).
Places we go but not nearly often enough:
Berlin, Prinzknecht and Mutschmann's.
L Whip Cracking
After a couple of seasons practice L is now quite good in handling his bullwhips. You can see him on video doing four different cracks with the 8 Feet bull whip.
Click the image above to start the video, or click your right mouse and download the movie first (choose 'save target as' and download to your local hard disc).
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